Muanh

O i understand them allright, but when i'm performing my technics in a wing tsun form i do the technics for the technics there is no reference to a real fight what so ever. But when I do my kata's in Iaido I imagine a fight I'm in this is the whole idee of the kata.

Drunken monkey do you only read the stuff you can comment on. As I clearly said I don't say any of the 2 stiles are better'I'm saying they are different *sigh and to see from your comments they clearly are.

People here are a bit confused a kata isn't a form. A kata is a imaginary fight where you use your technics in a manner that will work in a real fight, and that COULD happen in a real fight. A form is a number of technics put togheter and are predetermend, also a form is just to practice the techniek and make it perfect and a memory for your muscels. Anyone can make up his own kate just imagine that a man trows a punch at you and defend then take him out and then pretend someone comes from behind etc.

You must understand most of the things I say like forms and stance being differend I'm not saying we do it better I'm saying they are differend. And for the wooden dummy I still think it isn't a good thing to start out with it. But that's just my opinion you can have another, they are just some things we both think are better. About the organisation it does maintain a standart, research on wing tsun goes on but individual schools don't mess up the system. And not anyone can call himself a Leung Ting Wing Tsun Kung Fu teacher he will have a lawsuit. Leung ting gives teacher seminars and so corrects any errors anyone may have. And for some people I know they train the forms a litle differend because of there size they have to make strikes a litle higher or lower but the essence remains. About Emin Boztepe, I don't know for sure what the actual reason is of his split with the ewto, he says he is attacked and humiliated by the ewto and iwta. I regard him as a specialist and great martial artist but I think he left because of the money. I think he was tired of the fact that he had to give so much of the money he earned to the iwta, now he is geting it all. We are both students of Wing Tsun our styles are sister/brother styles just like me and my brother they are differend I'm not saying I'm better then my brother I'm just saying we are differend.

"Never wrestle a wrestler"

I would have to say wing tsun if you get a school part of the leung ting wing tsun kung fu system you will also learn blitz defence. Blitz defence is a good pratical self defence specialy designed for bar fights and that kind of stuff. It not only teaches you to defend yourself but also teaches you the legal aspects of a fight and how to deal with a pre-fight affects off adrenaline and that kind of stuff. I don't know to much about krav maga but what i learned in the past with ninjutsu and jui jitsu is that it is very hard to use technieks affectivly in a real fight. This is where wing tsun stands out, because you don't react to sight but to feeling your technieks will come to you without thinking. The point of wing tsun is when somebody trows a attack at you you trow your attack if it incounters nothing good you hit him if it incounters his arm or block your arm will automaticaly bend into a new attack/defence or your second attack will folow see chain-punch. Hope this helped.

Hi everybody I keep on reading that the only diference between Wing Tsun, Wing Chun, Ving Tsun etc. is the spelling. Well this is wrong there are some serious diferences. 1. The only one legaly protected name is Leung Ting Wing Tsun Kung Fu, nobody can call himself a wing tsun teacher without aproval. On the other case everybody can call himself a wing chun, ving tsun or whatever teacher. This is also why the quality can be very diferend from every Wing Chun etc. school. 2. The forms aren't the same there sometimes are little and sometimes are big differences. I even have even seen forms that get the whole essence out of them. 3. I have read about Wing Chun school who put there body weight 60% on rear leg and 40% on the front leg. Wing Tsun has all the weight on the rear leg. 4. The order of the forms are differend of course this is differend for every wing chun etc. school. Wing Tsun has the training all worked out and what you learn in England you will also learn in Germany. Off course not completly the same but it all has the same standart. Because of the diferend order some Wing Chun schools learn the wooden dummy form very early in there training, and this brings the greatest fundamental diference. Wing Tsun, Wing Chun, Ving Tsun etc is suposed to be a soft system based on impulses you react on and feeling what the other guy is doing (this is why you can fight blind). You need to be abble to feel a impuls in order to bend your attack and be like water. If you learn the wooden dummy form first your style hardens (wooden dummy's don't give impulses dont give resistance), you primarily trust on the techniek and not your feeling. In Wing Tsun you learn this form last to perfect your techniek and angle (ones you have learned to follow impulses). Again I don't say every Wing Chun etc. does it this way but you don't have the insurance that the teacher is qualified and follows the best way to Wing Tsun to be a soft system and remain a soft system. Hope everybody had something about my post and please feel free to respond on anything you disagree on.

HI You wanted to know if Wing Tzun is a good martial arts from a selfdefence point. The answer is yes i don't think you'll get a better one out there. And for emin boztepe he was ones part of the ewto but left it and started a own organisation ebmas (emin boztepe martial arts system). This is actually the same as wing tsun. I don't think he will be teaching you but you can get seminars from him and you will be amazed of what you see. I hope this helped Greetz Muanh

Hi I've been practicing aikido for about 4 years and wing tsun for about half a year now. I don't think you will find much sadifaction out aikido when you get further in wing tsun, and this is why. Aikido doesn't work against wing tsun. But before I can say if it is a good idea first tell me why you are practising martial arts? greetz Muanh

Hi I've been practicing aikido for about 4 years and wing tsun for about half a year now. I don't think you will find much sadifaction out aikido when you get further in wing tsun, and this is why. Aikido doesn't work against wing tsun. But before I can say if it is a good idea first tell me why you are practising martial arts? greetz Muanh