Maniac101

p.s Ronnin Ronnin..? I think not.. Business is Business.. martial arts aside for a sec, If you spent 40-50 years making a reputation for your "Business" and somebody claimed responsibility would you like it then Ronnin? Its the principle.. you steal a cheap toy or an expensive one,theft is theft.. The rest of the stuff you said,forgive me for saying, was bollox. In an ideal world money doesnt matter..in reality you cant pay your mortgage,rent,bills without it..so get real.. for martial arts to succeed in western countries it has to conform to a degree to becoming a business. Its how you run it that counts ..

Hi fellow artists, regarding Ishin Ryu Jujitsu.. I like the original poster, am a member of the Ishin Ryu club based In Norfolk,UK. I have seen a few people compariing our style to others of a similar name..also a few queries as to the where abouts of the original poster , Martin.. Well, Ishin Ryu jujitsu dates back to 1245, One of 5 original schools of jujitsu. Soke Kevin Pell has modified,updated alot of techniques that we use. As life,fighting techniques,weapons evolve so do we. The situation regarding the denmark mob.. The Denmark instructors were affiliated to the World Jujitsu federation that Soke founded. this means they become part of Ishin Ryu Jujitsu. The Danish pasteries were familiar with some of our techniques but did not actually do a grading with us. We have a special federation dress which we of senior grade,wear with pride. I must add that our gradings are nothing like what you would have seen before, trust me on that. So these danish cream cakes then create a web site with pictures of them on, wearing OUR federation dress, with OUR badge etc etc. And then they claimed to have started the Ishin Ryu club. All lies. The betrayal was made worse when you consider Soke knows them well and they had been guests in Soke's house and dodo's many times before this betrayal. I won't go into to many details unless you ask. i must check about the court case as I may not be able to say anything regarding the matter until its resolved. p.s Martin is still training but clearly not checking his forum replies.