dancin_ash

My question is this: If you were out with your mates and somebody for some reason, came up to you and was either threatening you or came up and hit you. Would your friends immediantly help you out? Would they stand back and watch? Would they jump in and try to stop the enemy? Would they jump in and beat the living daylights out of the enemy? I guess i will throw in a story or two aswell. Well last weekend i went out with a few friends, to a bonfire we have in our town, fully supervised by police. Yea we had a good time there, then we heard there was a party up the road somewhere, so we headed towards the party. But on our way there we decided not to go to the party and instead we headed off towards a 24-7 take away food restraunt. We all got a drink and something to eat. Then more people showed up. I went around and introduced myself to the people i did not know who were around me, then i started talking to this other kid, who was a little big bigger than me but very skinny, had glasses and did not look like much. So we were just out the front of this restraunt, it is a friendly talk so i think nothing of it when he tells me to walk a little bit over (like 3 metres) because we were at the door and yes it was hard to hear him, so yea i followed him a few metres and we were talking then, i notice he has taken me over to all his friends.... He then proceeds to tell me who they are and yea, i have had problems with one of them in the past (too long a story to tell there). But i had not talked to this person before, been in a few scraps with him tho, so i took this chance to start a conversation with him, saying yeah its alright i've got no problems with him. Then that other kid i was talking to asked me if i had any friends around, (By now i had 2 friends right behind me, because they knew i had been in a few scraps with these guys). And i said yea mate i got a few friends around. So he says alright then you have two options right now: 1. All on brawl right now or 2. We can shake hands So i said something along the lines of yea mate its all good i do not have any problems with you, so i shook there hands and its all good now. But yea, by then i had around 10 friends ready to jump in for me if anything happened from then, but i was very satisfied and happy with the results i got from it. Not only did i end a on going beef with somebody. But as i was surrounded by 7 odd people, i kept as calm as i would have been if i was just with my friends, and i had run through my mind time and time again what to do if a fight broke out. Me and my mate who watched tho whole thing where very happy with my performance. He does karate and he said i kept very very calm, and not many people he knows would have kept that calm in that kind of situation. What would your friends do in a similar situation if a fight had broken out, i know all my mates would have jumped in and did there best to beat the opposition. - Dancin_Ash

damn, im sorry to hear that. Thats really not good at all. Killing someone over that amount of money is not good, Killing sombody at all is not good. I hope you make it through and just be happy that you still have your life...

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TheDevilAside, she knows im in a "gang" me and me mates helped her and her friends out when they were getting chased by abo's (aboriginals) they are real bad around my area and are always causing trouble. So yeah she thinks its all good cause we dont go looking for trouble, we just help each other and other mates.

haha yeah, getting a girl. Well i like this girl at school, she's real nice and she is beautiful. So what i tried to do was get to know her, i spent the classes i had with her sitting next to her and just talking about whatever came up. And the more i talked to her the more i liked her. So i told a close friend of mine (who is a girl) that i liked this chick. So she was in a class with her and told me that she was asking the chick i liked if she would go out with people, you know girl talk. And she threw my name in and the chick i liked replied with "hes a great bloke, but we are friends and i dont want to ruin that" So what advice do you have on that, i really like her i havent told her but im pretty sure she knows, all my friends thought she liked me, but after that i dont know if i want to ask her because yeah.. you get it mmm she is great and i think about her heaps, i really do want to go out with her. isent what i want not ruining our friend ship, but taking it further?

Tai Boxing, or however ya spell it. Well thats what you have to do, thats it from me, i only read the first post by the way.

HAHA what a wicked response i am getting from you all, some of you are right in what you are saying, and some of you are way off. But i really can not be bothered writing anymore... P.S me and my mates are basically a gang

hey cross: thanks for the compliment Shorinryu Sensei: martial artist arnt supermen, yeah i agree with that. cause no one can beat superman!! I was not drinking at the club where i got jumped, its a non-alchool event. I was fine. You said i should learn to stay sober so i can defend myself amd tp stay out of places where people who dont like me will be. I was out to have a good time with my mates i had a few drinks yeah that what you do when you are young. I did not even know the bloke that had a go at me and smashed a bottle on me head, so i had no knowledge to stay away from that certain party. I am sure if somebody wanted to bash me at a party i would either not go, or go with plenty of strong mates who can fight and which will back me up You also mention me being 16, i think i know it all and i have done it all. This is totally wrong just because i am a teenager does not automatically make me think like this, i know that i havent done it all and i certainly dont know it all, i have a lot more living to do ahead of me. I have learnt martial arts, I did karate for 2 years but the instructer wasent very good, he was really into me getting into competitons because they had not done very well in competitions and i was the best in my class so he usually did more with me and excluded the other people, i thought this was bad, so i left. I then started Tae Kwon Do and did this for 2 and a half years. Was good at the start i enjoyed it but it got boring after a while so i left, my friends have asked me to do boxing and kick boxing with them, but right now i try to teach myself and get people to show me how to do certain moves so that i know the proper way to do them. My dad has taught me plenty.

Little Dragon, i can also say i have never used a weapon in a fight. I have though been in fights where a weapon has been used against me and as you said, i tried to disarm them as quick as i could. Yeah i see how training with nunchucks etc. could increase your hand eye coordination, i never thought of that or a hobby fair enough.

All you people hear are all set to learning how to use nunchucks with out smacking yourself in the head (yep i've done that dont want to try again). What i want to know is why do you insist on learning how to use all of these karate weapons. Seriously i doubt that any of you will ever get into a real fight where you will have nun chucks and will use them to fight against 30 people, like bruce lee does in the movies. If you want to talk about real weapons that you would use in real combat, real life and death situations. I will give you a list of a few... Knife Metal pipe Baseball bat Sticks Glass Bottles Belts Chains Guns (extreme circumstances) And there are plenty more, that i can think off - dancin_ash

flashy moves in real fights to me just dont fit in. Flashy moves should be kept to tournaments and for showing off to friends, i can see how you had the opportunity to use a move a bit out of the ordinary. Me i would have jus walked over and pushed me over if he was basically out of it but was still standing. Or if i had him beat but he wasent quite down yet and he could still defend himself, i would just walk up go for the left jab but behold i was faking and smack him with my right hand, finished. Flashy moves are basically useless in a real fight enough said

After reading through much of this part of the forum, i was thinking that a lot of the things that you guys talk about really would not help you at all in a real fight, i know this from expierience. I thought i was a good fighter because i beat a few kids up at school. And won a few fights out on the street at parties etc... The last 2 weekend havent been to good for me. First i was at a underage night club, (being 16 and all) And i was jumped at 11:30, which is just before it closes, it closes at 12. And yeah i was jumped by a guy, he ran at me from the side i dident see him at all, untill he started hitting me, it took me totally by surprise and i dident know what was going on, i threw 2 punches back, but he was all over me, so i eventually went down and just protected my face untill the bouncers dragged him off and kicked him out. Then at a party last saturday night i was approached by a kid my height, who said i was having a go at his mate (which i wasent) and i could tell he meant business, but i had already had a few drinks and i wasent up for a fight, so i said i dident do anything and if i did i dident mean it, and i walked around him and over to my friends, when i was walking past him i felt something hit me on the head, but i looked at him real quick and he had not hit me. Then when i was with my friends this girl pointed out i had blood coming down my face and yes i did, I had blood all down the left side of my face. Then my friend who saw me walk off from the guy told me he smashed a bottle over my head. I thought i was very lucky to still be standing. Was a bit wierd i dident feel it, i was not drunk at the time. Yeah so after reading all these posts, i think much of it is useless in a real fight. A real fight does not have flashy moves, it starts real quick, and usually whoever throws the first punch wins the fight (have seen many exceptions though but this is usually the case). Then the fight will normally only last a few seconds, have not seen many that went for more than a minute. So if people want real advice on real fighting situations by all mean ask me your questions and i will do my best to answer them. Just remember that the best thing to do is walk away as people say. But this may not always be the smartest thing to do and many times can get you into even more trouble. - Dancin_Ash

dancin ash, some guys from school started calling me that after I went out to a night club with a few mates, and a few chicks and i was the only guy dancin with the ladies. So dancin Ash

Do you have friends? If so tell them about it, and get them to back you up all the time, he may be afraid to take on more that one person. If not get your mates to still back you up, i am sure that you and your mates would be able to take him down. If you fight him at school, no cheap shots ok. But if you fight him where it is just you and him, do anything to win cheap shots anything. If he is starting you stick up for yourself, yeah i know everyone else on this board says to walk away from fights, but myself i am not one to take "bad comments" from people and not retaliate, i stick up for myself. And i have plenty of friends to back me up so most people who know me wont even dare to have a go at me. Any way have fun beating up this guy, well that is if you beat him up Peace out

I would have to go with a baseball bat