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Agreed DM, it sounds like there's a complete lack of respect through the enitre school. The black belt is supposed to set the tone as far as respect and discipline go. However, Ronin, it was your sixth class, after jumping from school to school and reading books, and you can beat him in a fight??? Sounds to me that you put off a certain attitude which causes people to want to razz you. But that doesn't make what he said ok. AND WHY WAS THERE A 16 YEAR OLD BLACK BELT RUNNING THE CLASS without a head instructor standing on his heels?

A lot of good points. My father and I started the MA together in 1986. He'd been in it all of his life, and it was my turn. Between him and my instructor, I was pushed into EVERY tournament on the east coast. Years later, we opened our own school, and I wanted to focus on the "Real" aspect of training. Close quarters combat, grappling, and street fight scenarios. I felt the tournaments had no place in our system. Well, I was wrong. The students liked the tournaments, they trained harder, and strove to be better. And from the school owner's standpoint, GREAT ADVERTIZING. I feel that as long as the students understand that the real life combat training comes first, the tournaments can be used to build confidence, and lets them show off what they love to do. I still believe that there are some schools that put WAY to much emphasis on the tournament scene.

Well, how about a poodle v.s. a Kodiak Bear. You completely failed to see my point, which is not at all surprising to me anymore. Of course in your scenarios power is going to be an issue. I am saying that all things being equal, I feel accuracy should be your main focus in your training. And my body type has nothing to do with this. I too point fight, full contact fight, and used to kickbox. I DO understand that power is a commodity in these sports. However, in my opinion your accuracy should still come first. AGREE TO DISAGREE THEN, CAUSE THIS IS GOING NOWHERE. I'm done

OK, sorry to fly off the handle, however when people, no wait, Martial Artists, who have varying degrees of expertise in various subject matters can honestly say that between Accuracy, Speed and Power, they feel power is the most important. When I used "8 lbs to break a leg, 4 to break an arm" I was recalling what a man named Hidy Ochiai used in a class to describe the use of short leg strikes. Also, I figured that because I have been with several different schools since I left Ochiai's school in 1989, and have heard the same quote time and time again, and I also use it myself to describe how little it takes after you have softened the opponent up to finish him off, I figured that everyone on this board has heard the same. And so far only one of you has? My point is that when you say power is 1, accuracy is 2, or 3, then it would make sense that a person with more power will have to train less frequently and less hard than a person with less power. If you have two men at 6' tall, 220 lbs, can lift the same amount of weight, and has the same power, but one has taken any kind of MA lessons, and they get in a fight, who is your money on? Now we've taken the power out of the equation, it comes down to speed and accuracy. But what if one was way bigger than the other guy? But the other guy has taken MA for years. Does your answer change? What if you have two guys with the same MA skills, the same speed and the same accuracy, would power now play a part in the equation? SURE. How many of you would not fight a guy because he's twice as strong as you? Is anyone seeing my point?

I find it just confusing that you all consider yourselves knowledgeable and studied Martial Artists, and you can't grasp this. I'm not saying you can take someone's arm and with the Indian rope burn move snap the limb off and beat him with it. It is more than obvious that you have not been to any form of joint lock seminars. I have studied in this art for more than twenty years. I'm trying to say nicely that if you come at me with some raging power, I'll make you look silly with some simple technique. THE MARTIAL ARTS WERE NOT DESIGNED BY PEOPLE THAT WERE BIG AND BURLY. Boxing and Football were. I seriously suggest you get to some grappling schools and do some training. That's not a slam, it's really a suggestion.

Nobody's putting words in your mouth, and I'm not saying those are exact numbers either. That's why I used the term aprox. That usually means that it's not exact. And it would make a difference if you were talking about a child or an adult. Now getting to your statement...you have broken bones intentionally and unintentionally. If it were unintentional, it would be safe to assume that you did not use an overly powerful strike to do so, eh? Also, just to clear things up, a ten pound weight is exactly ten pounds...unless you're measuring feathers.

Have either of you ever broke an arm? How 'bout a leg? If so, did you mean it? Probally not. Point is, it happens without power. This is an instructor's worst nightmare. The students are practicing joint locks, one resists and the other applys just a little more pressure to get the desired result...SNAP! And OF COURSE those numbers are talking about breaking a joint, I don't think they were ment for breaking a femur. If you believe that power will take all, then you might as well say that regardless of what style you take or how long you study, If you get into a fight with a bigger guy than yourself you will lose. Right?

It takes aprox. 8 pounds of pressure to break a leg, and 4 pounds to break an arm, so power isn't as important to me. You can be faster than the opponent, but when it comes down to it the well placed shot ends the fight...I'll take accuracy.

If I lived in an area where gang activity was around, I would get me some pepper spray. When they come up to you, spray the whole group and take your sweet time laying some whoop * on the punks. Oh yeah, the run!!!

LuckyBoxer, how old are you? The only reason I ask is because if you are still a young buck, it really doesn't matter what anyone on this board says, you're gonna do what you want to do. You sound like me ten years ago, before the wife and kid. The problem is that now you have put your thoughts and possible actions in writing. Now it's in your best intrest to let it go. I have learned the hard way that if you don't take care of the situation right then and there, you lose any legal excuse. Don't get me wrong, if guns are drawn, haul butt out of there. But it's over...suck it up and hope next time you react before the gun comes out!!!

I teach this in three steps. 1. front foot steps 4-6 inches to the inside of the body. Almost one foot in front of the other. 2. You can't hit what you don't see...do the full spin and get your eyes on the target. 3. Throw the hook. Keep doing this and keep speeding it up and you will be taking heads off in no time!

Well, in the movie, Enter The Dragon, I saw Bruce take on an entire karate school...So, I would say to make it fair, he would have to fight all the UFC fighters at once. And I'm thinking that if they can get to him before he gets his gi top off, they're all set.

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Actually, it was Moo Duk Kwan-Tae Kwon Do. I must be honest, I'm not familiar with the differences between the two. I know that it all dates way back, and at one point they threw them all together, but that's about it. Can you clarify the two? This is a question I've had for a while now, and I have found several different answers.