mastertae

well thats because i thaught they were facts lol shows how human I really am Why couldn't I be born an alien lol Any ways I probably should have done more research

I would like to reiterate that I wasn't trying to be historically completely correct. After more research some of these are not considered complete facts but are generally accepted theories. I was trying to show how cultures can become intwined. Tatashi Saito a reknown Japanese historian has many great books that shows some excellent view on Ancient Korea as well as Ancient Japan. I think he has a wealth of information. If I have gotten something wrong or something has been disproven recently than feel free to make corrections after all I'm only human and I may have missed some stuff. Also word of advice when doing research web-sites are not great sources, because a good many are considered to be biased also after doin research if some one corrects you than don't be mad and say their wrong instead embrace it and look into their views and thoughts. A good source also is the Korean Yi Dynasty Historical records from1392-1910. As for the things I wrote as fact well as I have stated some of them are not facts but are Theories that have become widely accepted and the reason I am saying this is because I did some research and people showing me web-sites and books that say other wise on some of the things I wrote. See people I embrace other peoples view and than do research to see if I am wrong or if there is enough evidence were I cannot claim something as fact.

Sources Range from Martial Magazine (A periodica) July 2003 issue. Source: Ancient Text from Silla Dynasty (Can be found in Historical records) Source: Writings from Minomota Shogunte Also on Historical Records. Source: History Of Korea Source: History of Japan Source: Tae Kwon Do Kyong Myong Lee (though in my opinion it is not accurate) There are more and im trying to get the web-sites, so be patient

Further studies in many books I read and studied now considers it a fact at least according to those books. Like I said it is always impossible to prove or disprove historical data and since Daito-ryu originated in Korea any ways during the Silla dynasty I don't think it really matters. If you want I'll change that statement from fact to a Hypothesis.

i just wanted to show that cultures after many years becomes intertwines as trade and business grows between those countries. I just used that as an example I could use Greek and Roman culture as well, but I just used Japan and Korea as examples

Here are some facts from a Japanese Martial art that is in reality Originally from Korean Fact: Daito-Ryu Aiki Jujitsu originated in Korea and is known to have existed during the Silla Dynasty. Fact: It was taught to Japan's Minomoto Shogunte during the Kamakura feaudal era. Fact: It survived in Japan. Fact: Hapkido did not originate from Aikido, but both system originated from Daito-Ryu Aiki Jujitsu (Note: This has been proven and is now considered fact. At one time it was believed to have come from Aikido, but further studies now show other wise.) Fact: It is currently considered a Japanese Martial Art Fact: The Japanese admits it originated from Korea and considers it their Martial Art because it survived in Japan. Fact: The original Taekyon arts did not vanish and is still taught in Korea, but is not as wide spread! Fact: The Bushido Code of Honor was actually the Ancient Korean Guard's Code of Honor and the Samurai of Japan later adopted it (This was proven by ancient text) Fact: Many Japanese martial arts that contain many foot work is believed to have Origins from Korea, but that doesn't mean the whole are originated from Korea. Fact: Some historians believe that some Japanese Martial arts are Korean martial arts and that was one reason many Korean writings were destroyed. Fact: Korean martial arts were only banned for a period of about 15 years photos being found shows tha Koreans continued to train in their martial arts any ways, thus many of their martial arts survived though in much smaller numbers. Fact: Modern Taekwondo is not 2,000 years old, but taekwon arts like Tang Soo Do do have roots from their ancient counter parts. Taekwondo is a mixture of the ancient taekwon arts and other martial arts in japan and china. My own theory: Korean and Japanese martial arts are so deeply intwined we will never know for sure what is truly fact and what is truly fiction so if you read all that I fell sorry for you, because things in history will continue to change and what you read today may not be true tomorrow...instead of worrying about origins of a martial art...just be glad they're there!

Though even what you say is to specuation like many aspects of history. For instance General Choi is considered the Father of Taekwondo and actually not the founder. As for Taekwondo being thousands of years ols. No korean believes that it's thousands of years. And many Japanese historians such as Tatashi Saito have theories that say that the Japanese Martial arts like shotokan may have come from the Korean Arts. Historian agree from Japanese records after WWII that Koreans were not allowed to learn their language for roughly 10-12 years starting in 1930. As many people know the Korean Language survived thus it makes sense that some of their art must have survived, but which of the martial arts were original and which are not and did the Japanese take and incorporate some of the Korean arts into their own? These questions are the type of questions historians may ask. and there is no answer a person cannot disprove that shotokan came from an ancient form or madern form of a korean martial art yet they cant prove it did. One thing for sure in which is known fo certainty some korean martial artists during the beginning part of the japenese rule were forced to teach martial arts to japanese troops...thus what did they teach japanese troops? again there will always be questions and never any true answers. As for what I think. My hypothesis is that the Japanese Incorporated many of the Korean arts and the Koreans incorporated many of the Japanese arts. My reasoning with this hypothseis is that when the Romans took over the Greeks both cultures influenced each other to extremes. thus my reasoning is that no matter what both cultures must have influence each other and this influence has lasted for thousands of years for instance writing from ancient korean texts states that at one time koreans taught the Okinawans some of their martial arts during the Chosun dynasty and the Okinawans also shared some of their martial arts. These sharing of cultures I call "intercultural breeding". Also what many people do not realize is that Japanese martial arts beginnings are not known. Most of the Japanese martial arts history is also mased off speculation. I have had the oppurtunity to meet a Korean who lived on the Korean Peninsula during Japanese occupation. He is 73. He was roughly ten yours old at the end of the Japanese occupation. His father taught him martial arts and was told to remember it...like most koreans during that time he did what his father told him. That reply i didn't learn any thing new...all i really knew was he learned martial arts from his father. You can speculate what martial art this man knew but you'll never truly know. History is the same thing you cannot trully know what is fact and what is fiction. What is truth though is that both Japanese and Koreans are working exstensivelt not to prove one or the other right or wrong, but you see koreans during ancient times wrote everything down...its known that they wrote down how to do the martial arts that people did during that time...as you can see if a korean found this piece of korean history it would possibly reawaken a martial arts that many believe to be lost...

Around 1909-1910 Japan took over the Korean Peninsula. Though popular belief says that the Japanese immediately banned the Korean Language from being spoken and Korean martial arts from being taught. This reasoning is false. Koreans were not allowed to speak their native tongue or learn their native martial arts starting in 1930. Though it wasn't through out the 1930's the korean arts and language was banned a period of roughly 10-12yrs. One popular martial arts today called Taekwondo is shrouded in controversy. Some would say it came from one source of martial arts were others say it is a combination of many. Actually looking back at records it is a combination of many. Some of the original arts and some Chinese and Japanese martial arts mixed into it. Korean Martial arts like Tang Soo Do and Moo Doo Kwan claim to be original Korean Martial arts. Taekwondo in actuality was not formed by one individual. The martial art taekwondo in reality through written documantation with the list of names who helped the formation of taekwondo. Like all things though one man get the most credit for organizing Taekwondo to what it is today. As you read this you may notice that I do not mention names, that is because I hope the reader does some actual research him/her-self. By researching you can see various points of view and remember when researching you should always stay unbiased. Any ways as you read this as I said in the beginning it wasn't until 1930 when the korean martial arts and language were banned. A person may speculate thus that at least some or a good-bit of Korean Martial arts are indeed older than many people realize. I hope people when the read history realizes that most of what you read in history is specualtion ment to make the person think. I used Korean Martial arts as an example, but this can be applied to any martial arts or history lesson there are always two or more stories for one event. Some may read this and think it's all "gibberish", but than I did my research and made my speculation and drew a conclusion. I did not state what I thought on the matter because my opinions are my own, but I would be glad to state my own opinion on the matter if asked.

i have seen some tournaments ustu certified in which 5th dans were competeing

also...it is believed that gen choi had meant for taekwondo to be incorpaorated with other arts...mainly different kungfus and thats why it seems to flow so well with other martial arts...tangsoodo is the actual korean art and is meant for combat...though it is similar to taekwondo the kicks are mostly low and much more punches and some grappling...this is one of the arts that was incorporated into taekwondo...how many arts is not exactly known but taekwondo contains the original taekkyon arts of ancient korea as well as some kung fu and shotokan karate...and he did not create it by him-self he was the one that had the most influence of combining korea's arts together...he added shotokan into the mix as well as kungfu because the taekkyon arts were missing some of its original forms and techniques...in other words they were incomplete arts so technicall tang soo do is probably missing some of the techniques and some of the forms probably were not the original forms

in taekwondo they enphasize punching with the hip during fights and to punch through...as you get into more advanced forms they do start to use the hip more in their punches because the techniques become complicated sometime...also a balck belt is actually not an adcanced belt...in korea they consider you starting to actually learn the art...they also train their kicks a little differently...they dont always use the instep for their round house for instance...but in most other countries thats the only way they teach it

Does any one know the taekwondo fighter (who has been retired for quite some time) who won the world martial arts championship 11 times and remained undefeated...any ways he's a good example of..Its not the art but the person who makes the fighter...I forgot his name but he is supposed to be a big hero in Korea?

there are korean rts that uses knunchuckas swords staff and a small reaper looking thing...in ancient korea swordmanship was greatly repected and they took alot of care. I dont know if there is any that uses sais though. I think there was korean martial art from the sixties that incorporated sais but im not sure about that. Ive seen korean arts with many strange looking weapons though so you never know

well i wouldn't say you couldn't take a hard style and put it with with a soft style. Wing Chun is considered a balanc between hard styles and soft styles. I think people must first learn to grasp the concept of one martial art and than maybe eventually incorporate slowly other techniques. A martial art developes with the person and vice versa if a person tries to do every thing at once he eventually breaks down. Do one step at a time. Learn the weaknesses and strengths of one and maybe than you can incorporate your own idealology into the art.

Once long ago there was a man who at one time practiced hard in martial arts. He trained day and night looking for the perfection, the ideal wway of combat. Recently though he became lazy and started noticing a little blubber like substance protruding from his side. Of course you know how the story ends...lol...but in a more serious note I recently became very lax in my training and didn't realize how out of shape I really was until I decided to work out again. Sure I was fast and still could hit hard, but my endurance had went down the drain like a lvl 5 hurricane on steroids. So people from experience I would like to emphasize take care of your body because you only have one body. Lucky for me I'm still really young and discovered this fact before it is too late. I have seen many older people who were not so luck many of whom died of heart attacks. Take care and eat right as well as exercise and don't for get rest is just as important.