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It took me ten years to get a black belt, and not because I was not good enough, it was because we were promoted when we felt we were ready. You can choose to run to the next belt, or walk there and take in the sights along the way. No hurries. I was at a black belt level in my 3rd or 4th year. Yet, I did not test until my tenth year. There was no hurry. I was always one of the best in my class and i acredit it to training hard and being patient.

Name: Eddie Rank: NIDAN Style: Kyokushin Kai Karate What is a Gold Belt? Do explain please

Dijita is a girl? Wow, learn something new everyday. Hey, do any of you guys know where to find a decent dojo directory either by state or city? I have a friend who is looking for a WC Dojo. On another note, what is the difference w=between AK and CK (Chinese Kenpo)?

Not LA Kyokushin. Never heard of that. I am a part of the A.K.K.O. (American Kyokushin Karate Organization). Send me the info and I will be glad to see what I can arrange. Thanks for the invite.

Dijita and anyone who is interested. There will be a MT sponsored event that will feature 8 or more KK fighters in Van Nuys California. It is being held at a MT training facility and they have welcomed us and other KK fighters to join their Saurday Night Fights. It will be GREAT!!! if anyone is interested or lives in the general area let me know and I will post the details. Yes, I too will be one of the fighters. Cheer me on.

Not saying that any one style is better than the other, simply giving a comparison of my experience in different Karate Systems. My preference is still the harder contact, and to be honest, it's probably because Kyokushin was the first style I was introduced to. That is why I trained with other styles, to get a grasp for what it was that they did different. In reality, they were very similar. I always recommend that people try another style just for the sheer knowledge and experience. Never abandon your art, but wander off in search of knowledge is good. I gained some great techniques that I now use in kumite from some of these other styles. Dijita, we do tons of bag work too. Thanks for reminding me. No we don't kill each other in class, but I was refering to the fighting that takes place in the full contact matches. Although class kumite gets pretty rough amongst the higher ranks. USA USA USA USA!!! Just a patriot

Let's be honest folks. I appreciate all the replies to this subject, but I am getting nothing more than opinions in favor of the style that the reply-e practices. Kyokushin is a Fighting Art more than a Martial Art, and to those who understand the difference the following will be easy to follow. I have trained in other styles of Karate in the past just to get a feel for the other variations that are out there, and to better understand them from experience and not from a Forum conversation. These include Shotokan, Kenpo, Shindenkan, and Goju. I will be the first to admit that all of the forementioned styles I gained respect for. They all had similar Kata, had similar if not identical kicks, punches, throws, sweeps etc. The one thing that seperated us from them was not what we trained in, rather how we trained. Kyokushin emphasizes (overly sometimes) a harsh training regimen that consists of primarily hard basics for warm ups, hard full speed drills, severe emphasis on technique and the physics behind them, full contact sparring at low speed for technique and high speed for ring experience, body conditioning for impact absorbtion, Sanchin for endurance and mental toughness and Kata. At no time are pads of any kind allowed for multiple reasons. Punching (both closed fist and open hand to the face and body) kicking, and throwing are the focal points!! Yet, we do in fact train in multiple grappling and manipulation aspects. While they are not the STRONG POINTS of Kyokushin, they ARE part of the training and have been so long as I know of. YES we do use elbows, knees and just about anything that can be projected from the body. Kyokushin does allow any and all kicks and knees to the head, as well as any desired hand or leg technique to the body. The point of a Kyokushin match is to quickly, effectively, and unquestionably knock out the opponent. Not to score points and go on for rounds. Having explained a bit about the "Art" of Kyokushin I can now tell you why it differs from "Traditional" Karate. Most other systems (with the exception of MT and Goju) train for sport and do not for the most part require a strict and harsh training regimen. Most sytems tend to teach for the art and preach the importance of not having to use force to deal with force. I spent many months training with these systems learning their techniques and although I got to understand many techniques in depth, we were not allowed to put them to use. We were just "told" that they would work. I think most of you will agree thatin order to know what works for an individual, you must learn, practice, and put to practical use each and every technique to better understand what works for you. No 2 people can assume that they can both use a technique effectively and in the same situation seeing that they are both different and will react differently. I really did appreciate what I learned from these other guys and I respect them tremendously. That being said, I also learned that I prefer the reality and harshness that only in Kyokushin I have found. Kyokushin means "Ultimate Truth" and that is what we strive for. No, we are not allowed to punch to the head in a bout, but then again I think most are thankful for that fact. If we are devestating without the hand strikes to the head, it is only better that we don't cross into that realm. Well, in the dojo atleast. Do we have a better understanding now? It is, what it is. Think about what happens if Kyokushin fighters are allowed to fight MT guys under their rules, but without the gloves. We don't use gloves because we don't head hunt. If they take off the gloves and fight by our rules and we are allowed to strike the head as they did in the days of Oyama in Japan and Korea, there is no competition. 5 Kyokushin top fighters vs 5 MT top fighters and the result was KK4 MT1. Then again the rules have changed. Gee, how convenient. I respect all styles, but lean towards those in our realm. The Fighting Arts!! I just don't like seeing true Martial Artist beeing mislead by your run of the mill corner dojo that just wants to claim a stake in their city's black belt production line. You know what I mean. Now, Any Comments folks? By the way, My true respect to the following arts as they have so much to offer for their students in my experience and in that of many around me.... MT Goju Wing Chun Brazilian JuJitsu Sambo Shindenkan Shotokan Chinese Kenpo Strong Tiger Kung Fu

Let's be honest folks. I appreciate all the replies to this subject, but I am getting nothing more than opinions in favor of the style that the reply-e practices. Kyokushin is a Fighting Art more than a Martial Art, and to those who understand the difference the following will be easy to follow. I have trained in other styles of Karate in the past just to get a feel for the other variations that are out there, and to better understand them from experience and not from a Forum conversation. These include Shotokan, Kenpo, Shindenkan, and Goju. I will be the first to admit that all of the forementioned styles I gained respect for. They all had similar Kata, had similar if not identical kicks, punches, throws, sweeps etc. The one thing that seperated us from them was not what we trained in, rather how we trained. Kyokushin emphasizes (overly sometimes) a harsh training regimen that consists of primarily hard basics for warm ups, hard full speed drills, severe emphasis on technique and the physics behind them, full contact sparring at low speed for technique and high speed for ring experience, body conditioning for impact absorbtion, Sanchin for endurance and mental toughness and Kata. At no time are pads of any kind allowed for multiple reasons. Punching (both closed fist and open hand to the face and body) kicking, and throwing are the focal points!! Yet, we do in fact train in multiple grappling and manipulation aspects. While they are not the STRONG POINTS of Kyokushin, they ARE part of the training and have been so long as I know of. YES we do use elbows, knees and just about anything that can be projected from the body. Kyokushin does allow any and all kicks and knees to the head, as well as any desired hand or leg technique to the body. The point of a Kyokushin match is to quickly, effectively, and unquestionably knock out the opponent. Not to score points and go on for rounds. Having explained a bit about the "Art" of Kyokushin I can now tell you why it differs from "Traditional" Karate. Most other systems (with the exception of MT and Goju) train for sport and do not for the most part require a strict and harsh training regimen. Most sytems tend to teach for the art and preach the importance of not having to use force to deal with force. I spent many months training with these systems learning their techniques and although I got to understand many techniques in depth, we were not allowed to put them to use. We were just "told" that they would work. I think most of you will agree thatin order to know what works for an individual, you must learn, practice, and put to practical use each and every technique to better understand what works for you. No 2 people can assume that they can both use a technique effectively and in the same situation seeing that they are both different and will react differently. I really did appreciate what I learned from these other guys and I respect them tremendously. That being said, I also learned that I prefer the reality and harshness that only in Kyokushin I have found. Kyokushin means "Ultimate Truth" and that is what we strive for. No, we are not allowed to punch to the head in a bout, but then again I think most are thankful for that fact. If we are devestating without the hand strikes to the head, it is only better that we don't cross into that realm. Well, in the dojo atleast. Do we have a better understanding now? It is, what it is. Think about what happens if Kyokushin fighters are allowed to fight MT guys under their rules, but without the gloves. We don't use gloves because we don't head hunt. If they take off the gloves and fight by our rules and we are allowed to strike the head as they did in the days of Oyama in Japan and Korea, there is no competition. 5 Kyokushin top fighters vs 5 MT top fighters and the result was KK4 MT1. Then again the rules have changed. Gee, how convenient. I respect all styles, but lean towards those in our realm. The Fighting Arts!! I just don't like seeing true Martial Artist beeing mislead by your run of the mill corner dojo that just wants to claim a stake in their city's black belt production line. You know what I mean. Now, Any Comments folks? By the way, My true respect to the following arts as they have so much to offer for their students in my experience and in that of many around me.... MT Goju Wing Chun Brazilian JuJitsu Sambo Shindenkan Shotokan Chinese Kenpo Strong Tiger Kung Fu

Let's be honest folks. I appreciate all the replies to this subject, but I am getting nothing more than opinions in favor of the style that the reply-e practices. Kyokushin is a Fighting Art more than a Martial Art, and to those who understand the difference the following will be easy to follow. I have trained in other styles of Karate in the past just to get a feel for the other variations that are out there, and to better understand them from experience and not from a Forum conversation. These include Shotokan, Kenpo, Shindenkan, and Goju. I will be the first to admit that all of the forementioned styles I gained respect for. They all had similar Kata, had similar if not identical kicks, punches, throws, sweeps etc. The one thing that seperated us from them was not what we trained in, rather how we trained. Kyokushin emphasizes (overly sometimes) a harsh training regimen that consists of primarily hard basics for warm ups, hard full speed drills, severe emphasis on technique and the physics behind them, full contact sparring at low speed for technique and high speed for ring experience, body conditioning for impact absorbtion, Sanchin for endurance and mental toughness and Kata. At no time are pads of any kind allowed for multiple reasons. Punching (both closed fist and open hand to the face and body) kicking, and throwing are the focal points!! Yet, we do in fact train in multiple grappling and manipulation aspects. While they are not the STRONG POINTS of Kyokushin, they ARE part of the training and have been so long as I know of. YES we do use elbows, knees and just about anything that can be projected from the body. Kyokushin does allow any and all Kicks and knees to the head as well as any desired hand or leg technique to the body. The point of a Kyokushin match is to quickly, effectively, and unquestionably knock out the opponent. Not to score points and go on for rounds. Having explained a bit about the "Art" of Kyokushin I can now tell you why it differs from "Traditional" Karate. Most other systems (with the exception of MT and Goju) train for sport and do not for the most part require a strict and harsh training regimen. Most sytems tend to teach for the art and preach the importance of not having to use force to deal with force. I spent with these systems learning their techniques and although I got to understand them in depth, we were not allowed to put them to use. We were just "told" that they would work. In order to know what works for an individual, you must learn, practice, and put to practical use each and every technique to better understand what works for you. No 2 people can assume that they can both use a technique effectively and in the same situation seeing that they are both different and will react differently. I really did appreciate what I learned from these other guys and I respect them tremendously. That being said I also learned that I prefer the reality and harshness that only in Kyokushin I have found. Kyokushin means "Ultimate Truth" and that is what we strive for. No, we are not allowed to punch to the head in a bout, but then again I think most are thankful for that fact. If we are devestating without the hand strikes to the head, it is only better that we don't cross into that realm. Well, in the dojo atleast. Do we have a better understanding now? It is, what it is.

There seems to be a lot of people here who know of or have trained in Kyokushin. Why do so many of you feel that Muay Thai is a better system? Not to toot my own horn, but, I have come accross many in Kyokushin, including myself, who have taken the "Muay Thai" challenge, and did not find it to be more of a challenge than any of our own Kyokushin fighters. I will not say that we are more effective, or that they are. There are many similarities and many noticable differences in the two. I will say one thing though, They are about the only ones who put up an admirable fight. Wish I could say that about most other styles. Unless you have been in the ring with us, DON"T ASSUME!!!! Get used to me. I am straight forward about the issues. Point fighting is not enough experience to critisize the Fighting Arts. Most Systems are either point or non contact Kumite. Yet these same systems rave about how they know so much about Kyokushin Fighters or Muay Thai Fighters. Once you experience Full Contact for yourself, then you may develop an opinion into what style is better or more suitable for real street combat. Let's hear it guys, what do ya think? OSU!!!

There seems to be a lot of people here who know of or have trained in Kyokushin. Why do so many of you feel that Muay Thai is a better system? Not to toot my own horn, but, I have come accross many in Kyokushin including myself who have taken the "Muay Thai" challenge, and did not find it to be more of a challenge than any of our own Kyokushin fighters. I will not say that we are more effective, or that they are. There are many similarities and many noticable differences in the two. I will say one thing though, They are about the only ones who put up an admirable fight. Wish I could say that about most other styles. Unless you have been in the ring with us, DON"T ASSUME!!!! Get used to me. I am straight forward about the issues. OSU!!!

You moved from the AKKA to the IKO? Do I know you? I am an AKKA guy myself. I train under Shihan Cappa. Where did you go and why, if you could tell me, did you leave the AKKA? I wish you the best and keep training in KYOKUSHIN. OSU!!!! As for brazilian JJ, I think it will really help make you a well rounded fighter. You know as well as I that Kyokushin is intense in the upward fighting, but limited in the grappling. My philosiphy is that if they take me to the ground, I did not do my job right. 12 years of KK is more than enough to deal with most fighting situations. OSU!!!