Monkeymagic thanks for the invite i choose karate because originally in the mid 70's as a 7yr old my father took me it could have been train spotting so i count myself lucky no seriously i feel karate as suited me all these yrs i now train jujitsu too but class my roots in wado one thing i have never done is rubbished any martial art each has somthing in there to take somthing from and i respect anybody who does any MA my children now train regular so the cycle goes on ps thanks dad for not taking me to train spotting