KSN Doug, what does that art resemble? g, If someone grabs your wrist, would you go for the neck? The arms are a good target if you are fast and effective, the pain will just take over, and the opponent won't be thinking about punching you, he'd probably be begging you to stop... (Depending on the amount of pain you put on him, otherwise it will work quite the opposite, be careful!) It's a matter of distraction of your opponent, otherwise pressure points won't do sqwat, if he manages to grab a hold of your arms when going for the neck, but of course that doesn't matter, that's what we are trained for! He he _________________ Lars Østergaard [ This Message was edited by: Lars on 2001-11-21 13:52 ]