No, more like the "open minded Eastern tradition/phylosophy" forum. Yeah, I'm lazy. I never said that I wasn't. You know how long it takes for a page to load on dial-up? I tell you what, you answer my questions, I'll answer yours... I do not lack support, nor do I have any herring. I do have salmon though... I have never done well with authority. Though there may be plenty of evidence, emperical and otherwise, it does not constitute proof. Unless you want to deny the definition of proof.