And thanks for that pearl of wisdom... Just because you learn how to strike a few pressure points does not mean that you know how to discern where, if at all, such strikes are located within forms. Not all forms contain such information. Some do, some don't. That's just the way of it. You may well see a similarity between a kata movement and a joint lock or a vital point strike, and if it helps you to remember that application, fine. That doesn't mean that that movement was really intended to be what you see, however. I blame your Wah Lum sifu for your lack of understanding of your forms. You should have gone and asked him for more info on the forms rather than thinking they were nothing more than Tae Bo. From one perpective, your sifu did you a great disservice by not teaching you what you were supposed to be doing. You did him a disservice by not asking him (I'm assuming you didn't since you didn't say you did... whatever). What I find almost amusing, though, is that you take information you received from a questionable source, mixed that into your former Wah Lum training, and now you claim to understand your forms... I wonder if you could have just practiced your basics more, basic strikes and basic joint locks/throws, and have understood your forms before worrying about mix and matching info with Dillmania's color by numbers kyusho...? Ultimately, it is an academic question. Cosmically, the answer may not have any real impact on things in the martial arts. Then again, you can start a huge diversion of a large object with only a very small and minor deviation in its path... The acceptance of questionable background stories and mysterious origins of information as factual (or even as sufficient for daily practice) diminishes the legitimacy of people whose stories do not vary depending on who they talk to or when they speak with them. It diminishes people who have spent decades training under one teacher, learning authentic techniques as opposed to people who train in a few seminars or are in possession of magical books imparting long lost knowledge. Whatever. It is a debate that neither side is willing to bend on. The Oyata supporters (which camp I belong to) know that Oyata is a legitimate source of information. The Dillmania supporters (which camp I am obviously critical of) believe what they believe. To each their own. But in the end, there really are people that are right and people that are wrong. Only time will prove which camp is which...