SupaNinjaz

Ali wrote: "And Thailand have also sent their best fighter to deal with Sanda on 2002. Result is 4:1, Muay Thai : Sanda" Did Thailand send world champions... No Did Thailand send national champions... No Did Thailand send divisional champions... No Did Thailand send provincial champions... No As White Shark stated, Thailand sends mid-level Pro's to fight the best San Shou and Sanda fighters that China has to offer. Does Sanda have more wins over Muay Thai… Yes, but the majority of wins by Sanda are due to points by decisions and the majority of their losses are from knockouts. The majority of wins by Muay Thai are by knockouts while the majority of their losses are on points by decisions. Overall the only thing that these challenge matchs prove is that Muay Thai is far more physical destructive causing greater damage resulting in knockouts, while Sanda looks good on paper by way of points due to throws.

I found some Kyokushin "Knockdown" tournament fighting clips, so please enjoy watching "the strongest karate" in bare knuckle, full contact action! Just click on the pics you want to watch, they are short but intense! http://www.kyokushinmail.com/video_2ndworldcup.html

In all due respect fireka, just because you will be training in the same school as the master founder means nothing in K-1, training and style of training means EVERYTHING. If you are truly serious about fighting in K-1, then you need to find a camp that trains amateur/professional fighters and champions exclusively. The #1 choices would be Fairtex in USA, traveling to Thailand or Europe to train Muay Thai also consider Poland, Russia or Japan to train Kyokushin from the best in the world. Yet what ever you choose, you must find a camp with amateur/professional fighters, conditioning coaches and champions. To beat the best, you must train with the best!

YELLOWPAGES, check the yellowpages bro!!!

The was sad and pathetic!!!

umm.. if Bruce Lee was still alive and wanted to fight in the UFC, then that would mean he'd be 60+ years old, weighing 128-130lbs as a result the best match for him would be Helio Gracie.

fireka wrote: In order to stand a chance in K-1, he would have to... - Spar full contact, under K-1/Muay Thai rules on a regular bases - Understand how to fight in the "plum" or clinch - Diet - Cardiovascular and Physical condition/training - Train 5-6 days a week, 3-6 hours a day - Understand how to use and defend against knees and low kicks - Be able to knock his opponent out - Must become an Athlete - Muat have talent to fight If the Isshinryu practitioner has ability and trains like this on a regular bases then without a doubt, he would stand a solid chance in K-1.

This is for the shotokanwarrior... BRAWL by:Erich Krauss & Bret Aita, {page 46-47} "I was sitting back for a heel hook, and actually had the heel hook. He wrapped his gi around my arm, so when I sat back, it basically pulled him on top of me. Then I couldn't get my arm out of the gi to apply the heel hook and get my leg over. So I tried to turn on my side, and when I did he wrapped his gi and his hand around my throat... Then all of a sudden I felt this gi tighten around my neck" Shamrock then tapped out. --Ken Shamrock--

umm... actually it was a sad fight on Minoki Ichihara part. Royce had the mount and cross body the entire fight, never once was Ichihara in the guard.

TJS has stated facts and I agree with his post 100%, but he did miss one very important and extremely skilled fighter that Royce Gracie beat, Minoki Ichihara in UFC 2. Minoki Ichihara at the time was a 2nd Dan Black Belt in Daito Juku Karate, with over 60 wins in bare knuckle, full contact karate matches, and arguable one of the toughest Karateka's in the world at the time and yet still lost to Royce in 11min. R1. Royce Gracie deserves nothing but respect!

/viewtopic.php?t=3425&start=30&sid=59e79e14da1deee281c52504aa89a557 Scroll down to my post and you'll find brief but soild information on Burmese Boxing.

G95Champ, their are many of top class strikers in MMA that have beat top class grapplers and here is a list of them... - Mirko "CroCop" Filipovic (Muay Thai) - Vanderlei Silva (Muay Thai/Chute Boxe) - Bas Rutten (Muay Thai/Kyokushin) - Duane Ludwig (Muay Thai) - Marco Ruas (Muay Thai/Vale Tudo) - Andersen Silva (Muay Thai/Chute Boxe) - Jose "Pele" Jons (Muay Thai) - Gilbet Yves (Muay Thai) - Maurice Smith (Muay Thai/Kickboxing) - Pedro Rizzo (Muay Thai/Vale Tudo) - Rob "Razor" McCullough (Muay Thai) - Murilo "Ninja" Rua (Muay Thai/Chute Boxe) - Chuck "Iceman" Liddell (Kickboxing)

--Burmese Boxing-- It's home land of Burma, Burmese Boxing is a very aggressive style that is fought bare knuckle and similar to "old school" Muay Thai. In 1930 when Muay Thai was becoming civilized by adding gloves, rounds, time limits and taking out many techniques (head butts, slams, throws...) The Burmese boxers stuck to it's traditional roots and continued to fight bare knuckle to this day. Their techniques include, leg kicks, knees, elbows, head butts, slams, takedowns and eye jabs, all these techniques are legal in a Burmese Boxing match with the only illegal striking area being the groin. You are allowed to stomp, kick, punch your opponent when he is down, but if both shoulders are touching the ground/canvas then you can not hit him, also their is no ground grappling allowed.

IMO the most important skills to posses in a street fight are... - Ability to take a hit or multiply hits - Ability to fight hurt, tired or in pain - Ability to control nerves, adrenalin and pressure - Ability to knock your opponent out - Ability to control your opponent These five reasons are why I believe MMA fighters would do incredibly well and much better in a street fight over any other MA practitioner. MMA fighters have experience with the reality of getting hit and getting hit hard, they train this way and they fight this way. You can keep all the black belts, certificates, and trophies you want but if you can't take a hit and stand your ground in pain, then your gonna get a reality check when you get in a street fight. One of the scariest things that can happen is hitting a guy as hard as possible and all he does is smile and counter back.

Dame straight Raiden, I 100% agree with you!