monkeygirl wrote: There are SO many guys in my class that don't wear it at all, and then get kicked/kneed in the groin...and wonder why it hurts so much. *cough cough* jake *cough cough* me??? sorry but i just hate wearing it (really really really really uncomfortable)!!!! i know that i should wear it, and i will for my black belt test, but i wont wear it unless i have to.