I have to take issue with this point. I was in the ATA, and the ATA has a camouflage belt. I think most people are more irritated that its not one of the "traditional" belt colors out there. The ATA has a 9 belt system before reaching black belt status. Each rank has basics, forms, and one-steps to learn for the test. I don't think a 9 or 10 colored belt system is too out of hand now days, nor do I think that it would necessarily mean the school is a McDojo. Fair enough, Brian. Keep in mind i did say that one or two of these things does not make a McDojo. I would agree that a 9 belt system is not excessive. However, there are ATA dojos that have far more than that. It just depends on the franchise owner. Does it matter how many belts someone has or gets? Unless you think their students are lagging behind because to large of a percentage of their training time is taken up with belt testing, I don't see how it matters. If you treat your purple belts like they treat their striped belts, or if they get their 7th belt with the same amount of effort that your students get their 3rd belt, that just makes your 3rd and their 7th belts equivalent. It doesn't mean that anyone learned anything different. Do people resent the frequency with which some people get patted on the back?