American Taekwondo Association... is the Assoc. that I am in... and our protech program... offers a lot of traditional/ non traditional weapons systems... it's pretty diverse and actually Sahng Jeol Bahng Dbl. " " Bahng Mahng Ee Dbl. " " Jahng Bahng Tri Sectional Staff Jee Pahng Ee and more advanced weapons are offered as well but this is what i can name off the top of my head... I hope this answerse your questions... for some ATA Sites check... http://www.ataonline.com http://www.paulkimbaa.com http://www.wjchoiata.com http://www.brandonsata.com ...some ATA and instructor sites... good surfing... i also check taekwon.net for info on Korean staff techniques... goodbye This Message was edited by: Patrick on Aug 13, 2001 7:16am