Well, the thing is no one made a post attempting to discredit JJJ in any way. He just decided he wanted to make a post and attempt to flame BJJ. The problem is he doesnt know what hes talking about. I never made a post that say "this style sucks compared to BJJ" but if you want to try to rag on the style then you're just asking to be put in your place. And seriously, another person who just "doesnt go to the ground." Against a scrub on the street, maybe. But if you really think you cant be taken down, then I seriously doubt your training. To give you food for though- Josh Koscheck is a 4 time Division 1 All American Wrestler. So was Matt Hughes. Brock Lesner was also a D-1 wrestler. Wrestlers are THE BEST takedown artists in the world- bar none. As such, they're also the best at defending takedowns, given their intimate knowledge of them. These guys still get taken down- do you seriously think your wrestling is better? If so go ahead and compete in the Olympics win a gold medal, and then retire on the money of all the endorsements you'll make as a result. First of all, I wrestled State 4 times, and have trained with Matt Huges as well as the olympic Judo coach at the time and was offered to train with the team. I never said i cant b taken down to get that straight. If u doubt my training, please come to Chicago Il, id be glad to remove any doubt. As i have also been to Brazil many times. I think you watch too much tv via UFC and other events. Im betting that you even know their pants size (referring to the names mentioned by you). As for me, ill continue to serve my country and fight in the ring as i have since 1990. My MMA record is 123-42-2. What is yours?