SB, it helps alot, many thanks again. Sound like your style is exactly what I am looking for. I like the sound of Bunkai, it has been added to my list of questions for instructors. On a slightly different topic, has anyone come across or does anyone have any knowledge of Karate 'Jutsu'? I'm interested to know what the major differences are compared to Karate 'do'. I assume its along the same lines as Judo/Jujitsu, Kendo/Kenjitsu, Aikido/Aiki-Jujitsu and so on but what are the main differeces when it comes to Karate. Sorry if this is not the correct place for this post. B