Yea, a big discussion was created about muscles, flexibility, speed etc. Stamina, speed and strength are important in MA. Probably everyone agrees with that. To gain strength you must train weight lifting (or something similar to that). People train weight lifting for one of these two purposes: increase muscle size or gain strength. You can train so you mainly gain strength as an athlete. Or you can train as a bodybuilder and gain muscle mass. Which one is better? From logical perspective strength would be better for a martial artist, right? But muscle size can give you weight which some people want. Some people also want to look nice in the mirror. And you won't gain good look quickly by training strength. I was wondering if to create a new thread about this but I decided to discuss this here. My question is, what is better from your point of view? Is it to gain strength or to gain muscle size?