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Sensei8, I think Toptomcat misread or misunderstood what we posted. As I posted before, I'm all for Kempo and TKD using the word 'karate' to sell their art.

Adding to what Sensei8 posted, Kempo and TKD have been using the word 'karate' for decades. People understand what the word means and thus what to expect. A blog for KarateBC tackles this issue but not the way I see it: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 BEWARE THE "McDOJO" http://karatebc.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-05-02T05%3A24%3A00-07%3A00&max-results=30 I found it quite demeaning to Koreans.

This was the best I could do for now, but I swear I read somewhere else that Shiomitsu did not learn KK as well as the pinans until he was going to Europe. I'm going to do more digging but when I find it, I'll post it here. I'm sure winning at kumite was the most important thing at the time but like you stated before, what's important is that Sensei Shiomitsu did eventually deepen his Wado and has become one of the most sought-after Wado instructors in the world.

Where did you get that from? Chitsu Others have told me this plus Sensei Shiomitsu said it (sort of) in the below controversial interview as well as others: Traditional Karate: Is the Wado you teach now different from the early days? M. Shiomitsu: The Wado that I learned in university was basically fighting, no technique, it was always fight, fight, fight! I didn't know so many techniques. When I came here [England] I learned something from Suzuki Sensei but his style was not really Wado style, it was a hard way and what I do is a lot softer, like Ohtsuka Sensei's father did. People think I have changed but I haven't, I didn't have any experience at that time. I asked Ohtsuka Sensei 2nd what the Wado style really is, so that I could learn.

With all due respect, Chitsu, I don't know if that's a fair statement. Most young men graduating from university Wado clubs in Japan didn't learn kihon kumite including Senseis Shiomitsu and Kiyohisa Hirano (I believe). I'm guessing Hirano didn't know enough about pure Wado even though Otsuka made him in charge of Wado in Hawaii; so perhaps that's why Hirano created his own Wado. I'm not sure if Master Otsuka taught Sensei Shintani those katas or if Master Otsuka required all his black belts to know them. It seems to me though that Shintani tried to incorporate some ideas from kihon kumite into katas like changing some of the morote ukes into nagashi ukes. Thanks for the info on Sensei Foster. I will certainly think about it.

Vancouver. No, I'll have to get back to you on that. They're not really encoded. They are on the lines of ippon and sanbon kumite.

We don't practice Sensei Otsuka's 10 Kihon Kumite katas, if that's what you mean. We have our own Kihon Kumite.

Yes and yes.

The funny thing is the students call it Wado but the founder calls it Heiwado.

Here are some more Wadoryu pinans, not by Shintani Wado-kai but by JIKC: These are quite different.

I'm curious if it's harder for Isshinryu stylists to get points at multi-style tournament kumite because they use the vertical punch and not the corkscrew punch.

In my karate club, we don't really do the crescent kick, so I'm just wondering what reason for the hand people are given when they are taught the crescent kick? Are they told the hand is used as a target or a grab or something else?

After doing a little digging, I found this Pinan Yondan from Shintani Wado-kai and it looks more Wado-ish:

Here's a video of a demo by Master Shintani and a video of just a discussion: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=6333604557&ref=mf ------------------------------------------ Steve Willow