I almost hate to ask, but I'm not familiar with either kisame or gyako zuki. I've never heard those terms before. Would you mind explaining in a little more detail? Kizami-zuki = Front hand jab punch. Gyaku-zuki = Reverse punch. WNM thanx for answering for me Wa-No-Michi well, my sensei always said to keep it simple, use a combo of basic techniques, and no flashy moves (at least, not before we have more exp. and have perfected them)... He even said (to confirm BDP's reference) that he witnesed a competition where a black belt master won his way to the finals (and the finals) only using gyako zuki for attack....