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I AM VERY HAPPY THAT MOSTLY AMERICANS PREFER TO TAKE MARTIAL ARTIST WITH MOVIE BACKROUND OR MAKERS MARTIAL ARTS MOVIES BECAUSE THESE GUYS HAVE PHILOSOPHY BASE OR THEY LEARNED PHILOSOPHY AND ABSORBED SPIRIT TRAINING..CHUCK NORRIS, BRUCE LEE, STEVEN SEAGAL, JACKIE CHAN AND SO ON...IT NEEDS RATHER IMITATE REALLY GOOD GUYS THAN JUST SPORTSMENS WITHOUT ANY PHILOSOPHY PREPAREDNESS AND KNOW ONLY TO BEAT PARTNER OR TAKE BARBELL.

6) Fedor : The greatest MMA heavyweight , a champion judoka and samboist. Also , a humble guy. I am sorry but it is not so that fedor greatest champion...he is not mohammed ali of mma...to be really greatest is requires to be winner about 10-15 years... he needs still 5-8 years and then he will greatest but now it is only "beatiful words"... because today he is a winner and tommorow he was defeated a fight..we will look to to future and we will see fedor is greates or not...

in my opinion mma is well but so dirty without any philosophy of life and values...it is a cheap art...sorry if i insulted someone...i do not know why these fighters feel they are super human beings..there is no one who will stronger than ballet or knife.

If you can accept using a pistol as a bludgeoning implement you automatically accept an opportunity to apply it as a projectile weapon. Why? Because if you may use it to strike by pistol an opponent it means ability and feeling that it is effective to shoot a target too, for example, by reason it has same comfort... the special organization of legs, and hands influence to the effectiveness of any attack.

Thank you for your attention and discussing:) i hold better that's is good for offensive and at the same time for defending and surviving purposes (it is important too)...My friend, i afraid our statements will not change our ideas...i think we’ve explained all important reasons why our preferences have superiority and i think there is no sense to describe it once again (may be I will add some comments later)

[first thing that came to my mind was "two hands on the weapon," just like tallgeese states. It is a more stable grip from which to fire a weapon. Ok. ... more stable to grip and not stable to survive...

Hi, I’m enjoying to discuss with you…thank you…sure I cannot change your position concerned with these stances,,,but I would like to make it clear once again. I would like to explain why it is more faster to use a one hand..for example if you will taste to move your right participant rightly in a direction where opponent stands and listen to this movie you can notice it is simple and therefore more efficient. In contradiction, applying two handed grip sounds like using two hand while someone pulls out nunchaku for example and gripped it by two hand before striking an enemy…you see it wastes the time and a little funny! Ok, it is a question of exercising and developing too…You know that we may win a championship of MMA by a one of inefficient system of the World on condition we are very skilled fighters..ultimately it is not important how good your technique but how good you are...today we have talked about only technique and this technique by scientific approach is all right. As for unnatural position there is only a one position with legs are too much wide and I agree with you... other stances are pretty enough because there are springiness, balance, simplicity, comfort, mobility is ok. It looks like kickboxing guards…who says kickboxing stances have no mobility? It is efficient for many people. Why it is unimportant if you can touch an opponent, for instance, by leading hand faster than by reverse participant and it occurs by reason that the leading hand rather near the opponent than I the case of gripping it as you suggest…we have almost same situation with weapon… Yes, there are target changes so miinimally between the pictured stance and a two handed grip but this minimum should be a reason of defeat…in the fight everything is important. By right stance you have more comfort to make a shot precisely( in adding the leading hand facing forward improves precision ) than using to much natural stance or as copes teach you to stay…prolonged hand it is essential not only in the martial arts also in a gun fight because principles are practically same… Sorry, I have not talked about only firearm… position to me not just firearm..i sure you do not want to freeze a progress or limit a fight…thus why we have to pay attention only for firearm? Probably, we need to think also about defense our weak points and choose optimal position which give us at the same time to lead effective firearm and to save some significant human body targets…this stance satisfied these requirements... it is good in defense and offence. For example, you certainly would be rather damaged with your opened position and two hands in the situation raised surprisingly by means of description above in the previous post or link(you will win a fight when you are faster than your enemy..or he’ll make a shot first and that’s all…be faster possible when you use a single hand, prolonged maximum in a direction of opponent ). The strong or weak side is a factor…the strong side faced to an opponent better by motivation it gives him to shoot only this part and you can accept it better...in the other words it should save your life in a good way than using weak side or standing like copes usually do when catch crime person. This version of stance is not a question of marksmanship and first of all the question of who is the faster will shoot an opponent in any situation (if you late you killed)..it is most essential part of gun fighting for people and how practiced it... that’s why such stance is preferably to take…your preference is all right too but only in the special situations. In the case of duel you have fewer chances to leave to live because of disadvantages which we discussed. You all right in words that the west tradition never dies and martial art stances have no future (May be in China or Japan these positions will popular) …although who knows what will be happened tomorrow? Thank you and sorry for my disagreement...

Thanks for reply...i respect your notion and believe you are very experienced person. I hope you have paid attention to this link http://arts21.choseit.com. If not please to read it. There are not artificialities and unnaturalness in comments of stance because it is like boxing position and that’s position is effective in any way..and as a result such gun stance efficient too. I hope you will think so. In further adding, using left stance is more dangerous for an action of weapon because the weak part of body is closed to opponent. As you could see there is talking about a one position and it is an article manifested only this stance and nothing else... other stances still without explanation its function and some of its do not seem perspective for a fight (though it depends on situation) I agree and disagree at the same time with you because as author of an article states his preference this is «the most effective stance with a gun by a one hand"..it means to consider stances used only a one hand although i think it is bad to use frequently two hands. I will explain my position.. I have some experience and understand that in conflict you have to be ready to use weapon very fast as you can and immediately, to pull out and shoot a target in intercepting enemy's fire with a logical closing your vital points maximum (desirably without special preparation) but when we attempt to keep it by two hand we waste time much more and have least chances to prevent an opponent to damage us (he may kill us! To remember cowboys of western.). Moreover you more opened and it is the next disadvantage of your stance in comparison mentioned one. Also your armed hand shorter and you prolonged distance..it is not essential for the successful shooting, is not it? Even head is not covered better you can check it by mirror.. As for head and shoulder it is ok…unfortunately picture does not demonstrate that it sometimes requires closing head by raising shoulder slightly with lowing head and chin. ( probably, you should read it). I agree with a statement that the very good position to use both of hands but it is very good only in attack and weak in defense by opening a big part of your body where a lot of weaknesses. By the object which we are discussing now you are all right in defense and offense. In conclude I would like to tell that as you know all people are individuals and think, feel in different ways, thus there is no meaning like «good» or «bad» stance and something else…

Hi, for everybody! I just want to make you familiar with the interesting combination of a gun with some stances of martial arts ...Please, read it and make your opinion: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35087211@N08/?saved=1 http://arts21.choseit.com

I still hold that Mohamed Ali is the greatest champion of all times( he was if i am not mistaken more than 10 times champion of the world), and it is not important that today martial art competitions went to the category of MMA and there are more effective fighters. But he was not a creator of system...it seems like he was just novator of boxing because in first used dancing in his fights...

Yes, some names are more significant than others...I sure these names should be more popular and well know for people if in their time was television or movies..they should be heroes or idols for people. Thank you...i do not forget it..

Thanks guys! It is really true what you have written here. Thus, we'll beginning to understand that there are few people are great really in creation martial art systems...

Ok...it is understandable...in my preference, it is not question of famous creator but the question what they created...do you agree? I explored sambo and understood Viktor Spiridonov + Vasili Oshchepkov did not make something really outstanding because they imitated judo...when you see sambo's fighting you can notice similarities with judo ...it has only another type of kimono, and regulars...that's difference(sorry, i do not think it is really outstanding achievement). It is also concerned with mostly systems founded in the beginning of 20 st century. On the whole, my investigation demonstrates me that mostly martial arts imitate and repeat itself...for example, Thai boxing and kickboxing, judo and sambo, and so on.