http://www.aakfgreatlakes.com/graphics/dojo/4big.html http://www.aakfgreatlakes.com/graphics/dojo/1big.html here's an example of AAKF using the JKA name. the american amateur karate federation, formerly the all american karate federation, (AAKF) broke away from the JKA 20 something years ago, yet they still use the JKA name. if u look closely in the photos, you'll see the JKA symbol w/ indiana written below it. on the symbol is the worlds "Japan Karate Association" trust me, it's there. in the mean time, im gonna look for a better pic or something. When I trained JKA, we had these booklet/passport things. When i trained one time at an aakf dojo (under the name jka indiana) with a bunch of other people, i was never asked to show my JKA booklet/passport. and what peeves me off is that these members (i have to deal with a lot of these guys...long story) keep saying that they're JKA or o wow i have just received rank in JKA or we have high standards b/c we're JKA. I'm thinking that it's very likely that the "jka indiana" dojo's survival depends on hoodwinking people into thinking that jka indiana is an actual JKA dojo. here's a video of their kumite. compare that video to anything JKA or even shotokan in general http://groups.northwestern.edu/karate/images/11032007/11032007sarah1.AVI[/i]