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yireses
Orange Belt
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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Location: Puerto Rico
Styles: Shaolin Chuan Fa {Kung Fu}
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 Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject: Did you make up your own stlye? |
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Did you make up your own stlye?
1. Why did you?
2. The you teach the same thing you learn'd in your other stlye?
3. What makes your stlye diffrent from the other?
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yireses
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Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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Location: Puerto Rico
Styles: Shaolin Chuan Fa {Kung Fu}
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Are you saing that nobody hear has made up he's own stlye? Come on
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fangshi
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Joined: 11 Jan 2005
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Styles: Savate,Bagua , Aikido
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I suppose it depends on what you mean by "your own style " . Over the years I have personally added forms , drills and specific techniques and/or applications of them that do not existist entirely within the systems that I have studied . But this only changes my personal expression of the art and does not constitute a new system .
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Traditional-Fist
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Joined: 03 Apr 2005
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Styles: Traditional Wing Chun
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After many years of practise we will all hopefully "create" our own style. I am not saying that we will invent a new one but that after mastering a genuine style we will evolve it and make it "our own" without loosing touch with its genuine essence, techniques and principles that were put there by its original founder(s).
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JusticeZero
Black Belt
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 2034
Location: New Orleans, LA
Styles: Capoeira Angola
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In a way - I adjusted the body positioning in the main stancework ever so slightly to adjust to the fact that my build is very different from my teacher's, I sequence drills differently. But it's still the same art and i'm still trying to recreate in myself the ability to move like his teacher moves.
As a rule, those who 'invent their own style' are duing it out of profound ego, with the exception of those who are formulating an art out of the things they know well as a solution to a specific problem. For instance, one jujutsu-ka mentioned somewhere 'created his own art' specifically as an adaptation to the inability of his intended students to use their hands on account of climate. That is a valid reason. As a rule, the many 'new arts' I see don't have any such reason, they're just developed because the creator felt themselves wiser than everyone who came before and made up some garbage so they could have their own personal art.
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SevenStar
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Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 2631
Location: TN
Styles: bjj, judo, shuai chiao, muay thai
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Traditional-Fist wrote: |
| After many years of practise we will all hopefully "create" our own style. I am not saying that we will invent a new one but that after mastering a genuine style we will evolve it and make it "our own" without loosing touch with its genuine essence, techniques and principles that were put there by its original founder(s). |
exactly. |
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Mr Pockets
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Joined: 31 Mar 2005
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Styles: striking and grappling
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree. When you fight long enough, everyone more or less develops their own "style." Look at Chuck Liddell- what does he do? Boxing? Sure, he has some thai style strikes and what not; but really, when trying to describe something, sometimes you just call it a "Chuck Liddell." |
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ninjanurse
KF Sensei
Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Posts: 5526
Location: Upstate NY
Styles: TKD;Shotokan;JuJitsu;Tai Ji
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| Traditional-Fist wrote: |
| After many years of practise we will all hopefully "create" our own style. I am not saying that we will invent a new one but that after mastering a genuine style we will evolve it and make it "our own" without loosing touch with its genuine essence, techniques and principles that were put there by its original founder(s). |
I second this!
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CloudDragon
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Joined: 23 Aug 2003
Posts: 579
Location: Missouri, USA
Styles: Karate, Jujitsu, Kenpo, Taekwondo, Kendo
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1. Because by creating a style I was better able to understand other styles and why they do what they do.
2. Yes, it was an eclectic style, drawing from karate, jujitsu, TKD, kempo, kenpo, and military techniques.
3. Nothing really, it was done in an effort to find the most efficient way to teach members of the protection career fields effective techinques that could be learned in the shortest time.
I don't teach this style, but I did teach it at one time to several friends, some that actually use the techniques with positive results. It was an interesting experience for me, I learned alot about training methods and how different people learn differently.
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EternalRage
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Joined: 18 Apr 2005
Posts: 123
Styles: Brazilian Soo Bahk Jitsu!
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| JusticeZero wrote: |
In a way - I adjusted the body positioning in the main stancework ever so slightly to adjust to the fact that my build is very different from my teacher's, I sequence drills differently. But it's still the same art and i'm still trying to recreate in myself the ability to move like his teacher moves.
As a rule, those who 'invent their own style' are duing it out of profound ego, with the exception of those who are formulating an art out of the things they know well as a solution to a specific problem. For instance, one jujutsu-ka mentioned somewhere 'created his own art' specifically as an adaptation to the inability of his intended students to use their hands on account of climate. That is a valid reason. As a rule, the many 'new arts' I see don't have any such reason, they're just developed because the creator felt themselves wiser than everyone who came before and made up some garbage so they could have their own personal art. |
Good call. I love to see those people who say they mastered like 8 different styles and mash it into one system. It just doesn't make sense... different styles have different principles and to mix them you will end up with something that will most likely confuse your students, if not yourself. I believe that having a base style and then crosstraining around to help fill in the gaps within your base (because all systems have weaknesses and all) will result in your own "style" or perhaps "interpretation" is a better word. |
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on the post.
